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Latest comment: 3 days ago by Kruusamägi in topic Kustutamise rasket tööd lisaks

Ma eeldan, et sa said aru, kus sai viga tehtud ning sulle ei pea täiendavalt selgitama, miks see kustutamise taotlus ei tohiks ühestki asendist läbi minna ning miks oleks Ehin ainuke inimene maailmas, kellelt tuleks küsida selle kaanepildi kohta. Igatahes ilmus välja üks sügelevate näppudega administrator ja kuna see asi polnud suletud, siis ta sulges selle, aga seejuures fotot kustutades. Ole hea ja aita see jama lahendada. Kruusamägi (talk) 21:05, 28 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Kruusamägi: . Mul on vahel pikad juhtmed, aga ma sain nüüd aru, kus viga sai tehtud. Iga Commonsi pilt peab olema kasutatav mingi litsentsi alusel. Sealhulgas Ehina raamatu kaanepilt. Missuguse litsentsi alusel? Kogu faili avaldasid CC BY-SA litsentsi all. Kui me eeldame, et kaanepildile kehtib mingi muu litsents, siis tekib kohe küsimus: milline siis? Kuidas kindlaks teha, kas kaanepildile kehtib BY-tingimus ja kas kaanepildile kehtib SA-tingimus? Vaat ei saagi. Seetõttu peame eeldama, et kaanepilt on avaldatud sama CC BY-SA litsentsi all kui ülejäänud failgi. BY tähendab, et autorit on vaja mainida. Kuid kes on kaanepildi autor? Mulle on jäänud mulje, et Ehin mitte. Ent kui autor pole teada, siis ei saa kaanepildi suhtes BY-tingimust täita ja siis pole kaanepilt praegu kasutatav. Ma näen kaht võimalust lisaks praegusele pildi hägustamisele. Pildi autor tuleb välja selgitada või autoriõiguste omanik peab saatma VRT-loa, milles määrab kaanepildile teistsuguse litsentsi, mis ei nõua autori nimetamist. Peale selle turgatas mulle pähe, et Ehin võis kaanepildi kasutamise õiguse saada sellise tingimusega, mis lubab tal pildi raamatu kaanele panna, kuid mitte seda muuks otstarbeks kasutada, näiteks Commonsisse laadida. Mulle on jäänud mulje, et sa pead sellist kaanepildi kasutamise lepingut võimatuks, mina aga pean võimalikuks. Ehina ja kunstniku vahelise lepingu üksikasju teadmata ei julge ma eeldada, et Ehinal on õigus kaanepildi jaoks Commonsile luba anda. Taivo (talk) 19:14, 29 September 2025 (UTC)Reply
Räägime kaanel olevast pildist või kaane kujundusest? Esimene on siiski nähtav piiratud mahus ja viimase teenistuses ning vähemalt selle viimase (kuigi arvatavasti ka esimese) kõigi õiguste omanik on Kirjastus Kristiina Ehin (mis ei ütle muhvigi selle kohta, et kes olid need autorid selle konkreetse kujunduse taga).
Praktikas ei ole meil oluline mitte see, mis litsentsi all on täpselt see kaane kujundus, vaid see, et see kujundus ei oleks rohkem piiratud kui CC BY-SA 4.0 (sest tervikteosele rakendub just nimelt see litsents, mis on kõige piiravamal alamelemendil -- sisuliselt võib kaanekujundus olla ka CC0 listentsiga, aga kuna foto ise on CC BY-SA, siis järelikult on tervikteos ka selle litsentsi all ning üksikkomponentide kohta täpse informatsiooni eraldi väljatoomine pole kohustuslik).
Tehniliselt on muidugi võimalik ka lahendus, kus luba on ainult kujutise raamatu kaanel kasutamiseks, aga see on äärmiselt teoreeriline, kuna a) tegemist on väga spetsiifilise teosega, mis on tellitud kõigi eelduste kohaselt just nimelt selleks otstarbeks ja b) raamatu kaane kujutist on vaja kasutada paljudes kohtades ning ei ole mõtistlik jätta üles piiranguid, mis võiks eri kasutusviisidele (ka esialgu mitte ette nähtudele) olulisi takistusi teha. Ehk teoreetiliselt võimalik, aga äärmiselt ebatõenäoline ning puudub vähimgi vajadus igas olukorras tegeleda teoreetiliste vastuväidete ümberlükkamisega.
Lühidalt on minu väide selles, et osa inimesi on Commonsis ogaraks läinud ja arvavad, et teavad autoriõigusest kõike, kuigi läbivalt on näha, kus mittestandardsete juhtumite lahendmisel jäädakse jänni. Samal ajal talitletakse aga autoritega äärmiselt lugupidamatult. Ei ole mõtet luua illusiooni, et see on kuidagi Commonsi huvides. Kruusamägi (talk) 00:29, 30 September 2025 (UTC)Reply
Seda enam, et ma pean tegelema sellise jamaga. Ja kui see mida mina räägin, pole kuskilt otsast usalduväärne, siis mis alusel üldse lubatakse osadel inimestel Commonsisse enda pilte lisada ja usutakse seda ilmna neilt täiendavat VRT luba nõudmata? Kruusamägi (talk) 22:48, 30 September 2025 (UTC)Reply
Ole nüüd kena ja sulge see naeruväärne kustutamise ettepanek.
Ehiniga sain ka viimaks kontakti ja lisan täiendavalt üles foto vähemalt ühe raamatu kaanekujundusest (teist peaksin eraldi raamatukogust taga otsima). Kruusamägi (talk) 16:14, 15 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
Commons:Deletion requests/File:2023 Jetty Barracks WMEE 007.jpg
Selle tegelase administraatoriõigused tuleb eemaldada. Sellele ei ole õigustusi ega vabandusi. Kruusamägi (talk) 22:35, 17 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
✓ Done. Ma taotlesin faili taastamist. Rohkem ma teha ei saa. Taivo (talk) 14:56, 19 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
Nägin nüüd, et see on taastatud. Tänan! Kruusamägi (talk) 21:18, 23 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Block evasion by RaptorsFan2019

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Hi. I am not familiar with reporting other editors at Commons so I will write here since you blocked Mario662629. Editor RaptorsFan2019 has admitted in this Wikipedia post being Mario662629. Could you block this editor? And can these blocks also be applied in Wikipedia without creating reports there? In addition, could you point me to a page on Commons that gives steps on how to report sockpuppets or other editors? Because I am not really familiar with Commons aside from uploading logos or nominating them for deletion. – Sbaio (talk) 16:24, 30 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

✓ Done. @Sbaio: I blocked the RaptorsFan. Next time please use Commons: Administrators' noticeboard/Blocks and protections. But Commons cannot block users in Wikipedia, you must request that in local Wikipedias or meta:Steward requests/Global. Taivo (talk) 20:24, 30 September 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! – Sbaio (talk) 03:11, 1 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Mittevajalik kat

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Palun kustuta see ära. Äkki on seal kuskil veel mingit jama. Vaatasin, et nt Tallinna laulupidude kategooriad olid kuskile täiesti ära peidetud vahepeal. Kruusamägi (talk) 07:08, 1 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

✓ Done. Muud jama ma ei leidnud, aga ei osanud hästi otsida ka. Taivo (talk) 17:40, 3 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

LTA back on my talkpage

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Hi Taivo. The sockmaster requesting renames of the files you protected is back on my talkpage requesting renames of the same files. Geoffroi 17:36, 3 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

✓ Done. I semi-protected your talkpage for a month. Taivo (talk) 17:39, 3 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. Geoffroi 17:41, 3 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Inquiry

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Greetings Taivo. I plan to upload an image dated from 1874 in the Basel Mission Archives. The website states majority of the images are in public domain, but I want to consult you to be certain if I can upload this image safely without copyright issues. Kwesi Yema (talk) 02:53, 6 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

OK. You can read COM:Switzerland. Switzerland photos created in 19th century are in public domain due to age. Generally 120 years from creation is needed and often even less. Taivo (talk) 19:16, 6 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
Alright. Thank you. Kwesi Yema (talk) 21:17, 6 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hi Taivo, I created the image as https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%22Kumase._%22.jpg . Please feel free to have a look if all is well it. Kwesi Yema (talk) 22:00, 6 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

LTA again

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Hi Taivo. 95.245.34.55 is back with the same rename requests. Geoffroi 18:28, 6 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

✓ Done Blocked for a week. Yann (talk) 18:32, 6 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. Geoffroi 18:33, 6 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Kustutamise tööd

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Kogemata sai üles pandud see. Ma ei hakka hetkel Valteri pärijaid taga otsima ehk parem oleks see kustutada. Sama kehtib selle foto kohta, kus on näha Olev Subbi loomingut. Kruusamägi (talk) 19:10, 7 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

✓ Done. Taivo (talk) 11:42, 8 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Chequea la licencia

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@Taivo:Buenas por favor chequea esta imagen (File:Sede Policía Municipal Montalban (2018).png) en la parte abajo de la imagen aparece (Foto cortesía/Prensa alcaldía). AbchyZa22 (talk) 18:42, 18 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

✓ Done. Taivo (talk) 21:02, 18 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Taivo:Buenas,por favor chequea este (File:Immunoregulatory of myokines in acute resistance exercise.jpg) AbchyZa22 (talk) 12:49, 19 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
✓ Done. Taivo (talk) 13:42, 1 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Taivo:Buenas, por favor chequea la imagen (File:Boeing 727-2X3 Adv. (F) - Solar Cargo (YV665T).png). AbchyZa22 (talk) 19:17, 30 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

✓ Done. Taivo (talk) 13:42, 1 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Taivo:Buenas, por favor chequea esta (File:Escudo de Armas Municipio Lagunillas.png) AbchyZa22 (talk) 15:18, 1 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
✓ Done. Taivo (talk) 21:59, 12 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Protected File:Flag Chomphon Province.png

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Can you do protected? long-term abuse expires 20:39, 31 October 2028 (UTC) 182.52.46.114 20:39, 31 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

✓ Done. The block is lengthened. Taivo (talk) 13:24, 1 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Thanks

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Thank you for the unblock! If it’s not too much to ask, would it be possible to remove the tag on my user page as well? I don’t want to blank it myself for fear of overstepping. Again, thank you. Apologies for the bother. AkoAyMayLobo (talk) 22:12, 18 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

✓ Done. Taivo (talk) 22:13, 18 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Review

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Kindly review file:Rama-Nishad-BJP-.jpg & file:Deepak prakash.jpg.Adamantine123 (talk) 12:30, 22 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

 Not done. Both files have the same source link and I did not find neither of them on the linked page. Taivo (talk) 18:19, 22 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
click for the second time on the same link you will be redirected. Adamantine123 (talk) 04:05, 23 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
Actually the website is of dynamic nature [https://state.bihar.gov.in/main/CitizenHome.html] when you scroll down, you will find links to home page of various ministries. For Deepak Prakash, you may click on Panchayati Raj ministry and For Rama Nishad, you may click on BC and EBC welfare ministry. I have now tried to provide direct link for the purpose of easy review. Adamantine123 (talk) 04:12, 23 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

You can also review from same site. 1.File:Surendra Mehta Bihar.jpg 2.File:Lakhendra Paswan.jpg 3.File:Arun Shankar Prasad.jpg 4.File:Nitish Kumar, Samrat Chaudhary and Vijay Sinha boarding on Patna Metro (cropped).jpg

You have reviewed many images from same source earlier. File:NDA legislative party meeting after Bihar Legislative Assembly elections 2025.jpg, plz review this one too, like you once reviewed file:Samratchoudhary.jpg from same source.Adamantine123 (talk) 16:29, 22 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
✓ Done. Taivo (talk) 18:19, 22 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

File:Drogen Handel Über Telegram.png

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Hi Taivo, File:Drogen Handel Über Telegram.png was already deleted as File:Drogen handel im Internet.png before. The page de:Drogenhandel is now protected due to the unconstructive edits of the author. NDG (talk) 14:06, 24 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

✓ Done @NDG: thank you. Now I can delete the file speedily. Taivo (talk) 14:12, 24 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
This author made other strange uploads which I marked for SD. As their dewiki userpage shows, they use AI for their edits which are quite unconstructive. I'll keep an eye on it, but my gut feeling says that there will follow at least two blocks (de and here). NDG (talk) 14:15, 24 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Category:Number 6867 in vehicle registration plates

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LucasKannou (talk) 08:17, 28 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

File:Medeiro (Medeiro).jpg

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Hi Taivo! User @Satna wrongly marked this file for speedy deletion—twice. He had the best intentions and simply needed to request a regular deletion of the image (taken by him quite a few years ago), since the owner of the land where the construction is located (a neighbour of his) asked him to remove it. The file is no longer in use on gl.wikipedia, and we were wondering how to proceed in order to have it deleted from Commons as soon as possible. Could you help us mark it properly? Thank you very much in advance. Atobar (talk) 10:47, 1 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

 Not done. The file is not eligible for deletion at all. The uploader has no right to demand own uploads deletion without good reason (except shortly after upload, when any reason goes and actually no reason is needed at all). In my opinion this is exceptional piece of architecture and the file is needed to show, that such kind of buildings exist. Taivo (talk) 12:14, 1 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
Hi Taivo. Thank you for your quick answer. Just a nuance: you're right, there is no question about the worthiness of this architectural piece, called hórreo; nevertheless, I would say the image uploaded by this user is not indispensable at all. Please check these two sets of pictures of hórreos for a fair comparison:
I guess we can agree that "Medeiro (Medeiro).jpg" is not an essential image. Well, this said, and since I am not familiar with Commons policies, could you please redirect me to an internal forum where the user and a couple of administrators from gl.wiki could re-explain the case and request this file's deletion? I know it is not a big issue, but the user would like to comply with this particular hórreo owner's wish - this being that his hórreo should not appear on Wikipedia. Thanks again for your help and understanding. Atobar (talk) 17:32, 1 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
The building owner has also no rights to prohibit publication of photos of his building. You think, that the file is not an essential image – I doubt, maybe it is. Of course you can talk about that in commons:Village pump. Taivo (talk) 17:52, 1 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
Hi again Taivo. Yes, I am aware that the building’s owner has no rights over this. His wish is simply the reason why @Satna is requesting the deletion of the photograph he took. Let me insist: As such, the picture has no particular value, neither from an informational nor from an artistic point of view, as a hórreo is a very common type of construction throughout Galicia - this place, Antas de Ulla, included. Anyway, thank you for your time and for this last piece of information too. I will keep in mind the possibility of directing him to commons:Village pump if no quicker option comes up, so that the issue can be arranged in the most efficient way. Regards. Atobar (talk) 19:42, 1 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

File:Ivanovo - Krasnaya Talka - Obelisk - 2025-11 - p02.jpg

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Hi Taivo! Thank you for your attention to maintaining order in Wikimedia projects. But regarding this photo I assume that you started from an incorrect statement. I claim that the obelisk is a work of architecture, not sculpture. This means that the rules of freedom of panorama in Russia can be applied to it. Yes, it contains sculptural elements, but they are not distinguishable on the overview photo. Александр Сигачёв (talk) 07:16, 3 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

I opened the photo in full resolution (8000×6000 pixels). The black obelisk has sculptural works in middle and white stones in front of monument have engraved figures as well. But I thought: if the file resolution would be not so big, maybe it could be OK? I tried resolution 768 pixels height: black sculptures would be OK, but white sculptures would be still too well seen. Taivo (talk) 14:24, 3 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
I'll try to take a photo from a different angle, where the sculptural work won't be noticeable. --Александр Сигачёв (talk) 08:29, 7 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Kustutamise rasket tööd lisaks

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Ehk saad abiks olla selle likvideerimisel. Lähemal ajal on ees ka suuremas mahus teadusfoto võistlusele esitatud piltide ülevaatamist ja küllap siin ilmneb veel probleemseid pilte. Kruusamägi (talk) 02:11, 12 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Samuti on siin üks hüljatud kategooria, mida vaja pole. Kruusamägi (talk) 00:04, 14 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
Äkki likvideerid ka järgnevad fotod: nr 1, nr 2, nr 3, nr 4. Kruusamägi (talk) 22:09, 15 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
Mõne AI-pildi võib vast eelnevasse valikusse lisada nagu File:Bee in water.jpg ja File:Bee sanctuary.jpg. Kruusamägi (talk) 22:43, 15 December 2025 (UTC)Reply